D.: What is the and what the therein? How do they appear?
M.: The and the are the same as the Self. The sphurana requires a basis for its manifestation. This is explained in the book.
D.: How does the appear—as light, movement, or what?
M.: How can it be described in words? It includes all these—It is the Self. Fix your attention on it and do not let go the idea of its ultimate character.