Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi · Volume I

Talk 163

24th February, 1936.

Dr. Henry Hand, an American of about seventy, asked: “What is ego?”

M.: Ego being internal and not external to you it must be clear to yourself.

D.: What is its definition?

M.: The definition also must proceed from the ego. The ego must define itself.

D.: What is soul?

M.: Find the ego, the soul is found.

D.: Are they then the same?

M.: Soul can be without the ego; but the ego cannot be without the soul. They are like bubble and the ocean.

D.: That clarifies the matter. What is ?

M.: and soul are the same.

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