Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi · Volume II

Talk 263

20th October, 1936

Dr. Syed: Sri Bhagavan says that the Heart is the Self. Psychology has it that malice, envy, jealousy and all passions have their seat in the heart. How are these two statements to be reconciled?

M.: The whole cosmos is contained in one pinhole in the Heart. These passions are part of the cosmos. They are (ignorance).

D.: How did arise?

M.: is like [she who is not is māyā (illusion)]. Similarly that which is not is ignorance. Therefore the question does not arise. Nevertheless, the question is asked. Then ask, “Whose is the avidyā?” Avidyā is ignorance. It implies subject and object. Become the subject and there will be no object.

D.: What is ?

Ignorance of Self. Who is ignorant of the Self? The self must be ignorant of Self. Are there two selves?

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