Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi · Volume II

Talk 312

2nd January, 1937

Mr. V. K. Cholkar, of Poona: It is said “Know thyself” or see who the “I” in you is. What is the way to do it? Is it by simply repeating the mechanically all along or have you to do it, remembering every moment why you are repeating the mantra?

M.: You are always repeating the automatically. If you are not aware of the (unspoken chant) which is eternally going on, you should take to japa. Japa is made with an effort. The effort is meant to ward off other thoughts. Then the japa becomes mental and internal. Finally, its ajapa and eternal nature will be realised. For it will be found to be going on even without your effort. The effortless state is the state of realisation.

Mr. Cholkar again requested instructions from a practical point of view, i.e., suitable to himself.

M.: It is not external and therefore need not be sought elsewhere. It is internal and also eternal. It is always realised. But you say you are not aware. It requires constant attention to itself. No other effort is necessary. Your effort is only meant not to allow yourself to be distracted by other thoughts.

The person was satisfied.

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