Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi · Volume II

Talk 343

23rd January, 1937

D.: Even as the hand is cut off, one must remain unaware of it because Srimad Gita declares that the Self is different from the body.

M.: Does consist in being unaware of the pain of injury?

D.: Should he not remain unaware of pain?

M.: Major operations are performed under anaesthetics, keeping the patient unaware of the pain. Does the patient gain , too, at the same time? Insensibility to pain cannot be jnāna.

D.: Should not a (a sage) be insensible to pain?

M.: Physical pain only follows body-consciousness; it cannot be in the absence of body-consciousness. Mind, being unaware of the body, cannot be aware of its pains or pleasures. Read the story of Indra and Ahalya in “Yoga Vasishta”; there death itself is said to be an act of mind.

Pains are dependent on the ego; they cannot be without the ‘I’, but ‘I’ can remain without them.

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