Mr. Subbaramiah, a college professor from Nellore, asked about .
M.: All questions relating to are inadmissible; because mukti means release from bondage which implies the present existence of bondage. There is no bondage and therefore no mukti either.
D.: The speak of it and its grades.
M.: The are not meant for the wise because they do not need them; the ignorant do not want them. Only the mumukshus look up to the sāstras. That means that the sāstras are neither for wisdom nor for ignorance.
D.: Vasishta is said to be a whereas Janaka was a .
M.: Why speak of Vasishta or Janaka? What about oneself?
There were many new visitors this day. Two of them were speaking of Ganapati Muni in Sri Bhagavan’s presence. Sri Bhagavan put in a few words in their talk:
(1) Some say that and are the two wings with which to fly to . What is jnāna? What is upāsana? Jnāna is ever present. That is the ultimate goal also. When an effort is made the effort is called upāsana; when it is effortless it is jnāna, which is the same as mukti.
(2) After some discussion among themselves, a visitor said: Some Superior Power must help us to shake off the externalities.
Sri Bhagavan said: Who sees the externalities? Or do they say that they exist? If so let the world say that it exists.
Again, if the world is a projection from the interior it must be recognised that it is projected simultaneously with the ‘I’-thought.
Either way the ‘I’ is the fundamental basis knowing which all else is known.
(3) Another said that Ganapati Muni used to say that he could even go to Indra-loka and say what Indra was doing but he could not go within and find the ‘I’.
Sri Bhagavan added that Ganapati Muni used to say that it was easy to move forward but impossible to move backward.
Then Sri Bhagavan remarked: However far one goes there he is. Where is moving backward? The same truth is contained in the in Isa Upanishad.
(4) In reply to a querry how Ganapati Muni became an āsu kavi (inspired poet), Sri Bhagavan said: It is said that while he was making Siva appeared and gave him milk or honey to drink, after which he became āsu kavi.