As Sri Bhagavan was continuing in the same strain, a visitor asked how to overcome the identity of the Self with the body.
M.: What about sleep?
D.: There is ignorance prevailing.
M.: How do you know your ignorance in sleep? Did you exist in sleep, or not?
D.: I do not know.
M.: Do you deny your existence in sleep?
D.: I must admit it by my reasoning.
M.: How do you infer your existence?
D.: By reasoning and experience.
M.: Is reasoning necessary for experience? (Laughter).
D.: Is meditation analytical or synthetical?
M.: Analysis or synthesis are in the region of intellect. The Self transcends the intellect.