Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi · Volume II

Talk 365

20th February, 1937

As Sri Bhagavan was continuing in the same strain, a visitor asked how to overcome the identity of the Self with the body.

M.: What about sleep?

D.: There is ignorance prevailing.

M.: How do you know your ignorance in sleep? Did you exist in sleep, or not?

D.: I do not know.

M.: Do you deny your existence in sleep?

D.: I must admit it by my reasoning.

M.: How do you infer your existence?

D.: By reasoning and experience.

M.: Is reasoning necessary for experience? (Laughter).

D.: Is meditation analytical or synthetical?

M.: Analysis or synthesis are in the region of intellect. The Self transcends the intellect.