Mr. Vaidyalingam, an employee of the National Bank: By meditation manifestation disappears and then Ananda results. It is short lived. How is it made ever abiding?
M.: By scorching the predispositions.
D.: Is not the Self the witness only ()?
M.: ‘Witness’ is applicable when there is an object to be seen. Then it is duality. The Truth lies beyond both. In the mantra, “Sākshi chetā kevalo nirgunaseha”, the word must be understood as sannidhi (presence), without which there could be nothing. See how the Sun is necessary for daily activities. He does not however form part of the world actions; yet they cannot take place without the Sun. He is the witness of the activities. So it is with the Self.