Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi · Volume III

Talk 509

26th August, 1938

Mr. MacIver had an interview with Sri Bhagavan and spoke about .

Sri Bhagavan asked: What is this ? After a pause, He continued, “Diksha is of various kinds, by word; by sight, by touch and so forth.”

D.: Bhagavan’s is mauna diksha, is it not?

M.: Yes, this is the highest form of .

D.: Is it applicable to the vichāra mārga only?

M.: All the mārgas are included in the vichāra mārga.

D.: Yes, but if one wished to take them separately, it would not be applicable. Would it?

M.: No.

D.: Supposing one feels the need for aids to Realisation these are to be regarded as belonging to accessory mārgas. Are they not?

M.: Yes.

D.: And for these then other would be necessary?

M.: Yes.

D.: From this another question arises: so long as I am at Bhagavan’s feet, I cannot be regarded as a faithful Christian.

Sri Bhagavan interrupted saying that this was the essence of Christianity.

D.: Yes, but not in the eyes of the present representatives of the Church. Accordingly I can no longer look to the side of the Church for aid. Have I Bhagavan’s leave to look elsewhere?

M.: That is left to you.

After a pause Sri Bhagavan spoke to the effect that people who come here are brought by some mysterious Power which will look to their needs. The conversation practically ended with this.

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