Mr. MacIver had an interview with Sri Bhagavan and spoke about .
Sri Bhagavan asked: What is this ? After a pause, He continued, “Diksha is of various kinds, by word; by sight, by touch and so forth.”
D.: Bhagavan’s is mauna diksha, is it not?
M.: Yes, this is the highest form of .
D.: Is it applicable to the vichāra mārga only?
M.: All the mārgas are included in the vichāra mārga.
D.: Yes, but if one wished to take them separately, it would not be applicable. Would it?
M.: No.
D.: Supposing one feels the need for aids to Realisation these are to be regarded as belonging to accessory mārgas. Are they not?
M.: Yes.
D.: And for these then other would be necessary?
M.: Yes.
D.: From this another question arises: so long as I am at Bhagavan’s feet, I cannot be regarded as a faithful Christian.
Sri Bhagavan interrupted saying that this was the essence of Christianity.
D.: Yes, but not in the eyes of the present representatives of the Church. Accordingly I can no longer look to the side of the Church for aid. Have I Bhagavan’s leave to look elsewhere?
M.: That is left to you.
After a pause Sri Bhagavan spoke to the effect that people who come here are brought by some mysterious Power which will look to their needs. The conversation practically ended with this.