Major Chadwick had translated “Na karmanā na prajayā......” into English. Sri Bhagavan was explaining its meaning. may be interpreted subjectively or objectively. The latter meaning requires faith in the Sastras which speak of such lokas, whereas the former meaning is purely of experience and requires no external authority. Brahmaloka would mean Brahma jnāna (Knowledge of Brahman) or Self-Realisation (Ātma Sākshātkāra). Parāntakāla as opposed to aparāntakāla. In the latter the pass into oblivion to take other births. Their oblivion is enveloped in ignorance (). Parā is beyond the body. Parāntakāla is transcendence over the body, etc., i.e., (knowledge). Parāmritāt=prakriteh=beyond prakriti. Sarve implies that all are qualified for knowledge and liberation (). yatayah = yama niyama sametāh sat purushāh = good men well disciplined. The whole passage implies passing into the real beyond the unreal.
(Deathlessness is not obtained through action or begetting off-spring or wealth. Some attain that state through renunciation.
The Sages (that have conquered the senses) attain that which is more supreme than Heaven and shining all alone in the Heart.
The Adepts who by renunciation and one-pointedness are pure in heart and have known the certainty of Truth by the special knowledge proclaimed by Vedanta, get fully released in the from the causal at the dissolution of the body.
That alone which shines as the tiny Akās, void of sorrow, in the lotus heart, the tiny seat of the spotless Supreme in the (inner) core of the body is worthy of worship.
He alone is the Supreme Lord, who is beyond the Primal Word which is the beginning and end of the Veda and in which merges the creative Cause.)
Mr. T. K. S. Iyer later asked something about muktaloka (region of liberated souls). Sri Bhagavan said that it meant the same as .
D. asked if some sukshma tanu (subtle body) such as pranava tanu or suddha tanu (tanu = body; suddha = pure) was required to gain such loka.
M.: means Real japa. It is however interpreted to be A, U, M, and Bindu. Of these, the first three are interpreted as Visva, Taijasa, Prājna and Virāt, , . Nāda and Bindu correspond to and (mind).
The Mandukya Upanishad speaks of the three mātras and turīya mātra. The final meaning is that it represents the real state.
To a further question, M. answered: There are said to be Panchapada Mahāvākyāni ( with five words) e.g., Tattvamsi atinijam (‘you are that’ is the great truth). The first three words have their lakshya artha (significance) all of which signify only the one Truth. So many efforts and so much discipline are said to be necessary for eradicating the non-existing !