Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi · Volume III

Talk 517

23rd September, 1938

There was some reference to two slokas in “Yoga Vāsishtha” where spiritism in mlechcha desa is mentioned. Mr. MacIver said that black magic is more prevalent in the West than is ordinarily known to the observer. The writer then rememberd how Mr. Paul Brunton had once said that he actually feared a woman for her association with black magic.

Sri Bhagavan asked if the gentleman had read “Devikālottāram”. He then said that ābhichara prayoga (black magic) is condemned there. He also added that by such practices one compasses one’s own ruin. (ignorance) is itself bad and makes one commit suicide. Why should black magic be also added to it?

D.: What is the pratikriya (remedy) open to the victim of black magic?

M.: (devotion to God).

D.: Non-resistance seems to be the only remedy for all kinds of evil such as slander.

M.: Quite so. If one abuses another or injures him the remedy does not lie in retort or resistance. Simply keep quiet. This quiet will bring peace to the injured but make the offender restless until he is driven to admit his error to the injured party.

This black magic is said to have been used even against the greatest of saints in India since time immemorial. The tapasvis of Daruka forest used it against Siva Himself.

Then the conversation turned on .

Sri Bhagavan said is the same as Atmaloka. Again Brahmaiva lokah = Brahmalokah (Brahma is Himself the region) and Brahma is . So Brahmaloka is only the Self.

Loka, aloka are both synonymous. It is the same as andamillākkan in “Ulladu Nārpadu”. “Lokyate iti lokah”. (That which is seen is loka.)

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