Another devotee: Is it not that the ‘I’ exists only in relation to a ‘this’ (aham—idam)?
M.: ‘I’ and ‘this’ appear together now. But ‘this’ is contained (vyāptam) in the ‘I’,—they are not apart. ‘This’ has to merge into and become one with ‘I’. The ‘I’ that remains over is the true ‘I’.