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"One school says sadhana is to be done with women. Once I was taken among the women of the Kartabhajas. They all came and sat near me. When I called them Mother, Mother, they began saying to one another, He is a pravartaka, he doesn't know the ghat yet! In their way of thinking, the raw state is called pravartaka; after that comes sadhaka; after that the siddha of siddhas.