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"Padmalochan was a great man of knowledge, and yet, though I kept crying 'Mother, Mother', he held me in high regard. Padmalochan was the court pandit of the Raja of Burdwan. He had come to Calcutta and was staying in a garden house near Kamarhati. I wanted to see the pandit. I sent Hriday to find out whether he was proud or not, and heard that the pandit had no pride. So I met him. With all his knowledge and learning, he wept to hear me sing Ramprasad's songs! I never found such joy in talking with anyone. He told me, 'Give up the desire to keep company with devotees, or all sorts of people will drag you down.' He had held a disputation in writing with Utsavananda, the guru of Vaishnavcharan, and he said to me besides, 'Just listen to this.' There was once a debate at an assembly as to whether Siva is greater or Brahma. In the end the brahmin pandits asked Padmalochan. Padmalochan was so guileless that he said, 'Not one of my fourteen generations has seen Siva, or seen Brahma either.' When he heard of my giving up woman and gold, one day he asked me, 'What made you give all that up? "This is money, this is clay": such a sense of difference comes from ignorance.' What was I to say? I said, 'Who knows, my dear sir; I simply don't like money and such things.'"