Mantra 16

स होवाचाजातशत्रुः यत्रैष एतत्सुप्तोऽभूद्य एष विज्ञानमयः पुरुषः क्वैष तदाभूत्कुत एतदागादिति ।तदु ह न मेने गार्ग्यः ॥२,१.१६ ॥

In plain words

Ajātaśatru said, "When this man was asleep here, where was this person made of understanding? And whence has he come back?" And Gārgya did not know.

The commentators

Bṛhadāraṇyakopaniṣadbhāṣyam· Leaf 8.264· avatāraṇikā

कैष तदाभूदित्यस्य प्रश्नस्य प्रतिवचनमुक्तम् ; अनेन च प्रश्ननिर्णयेन विज्ञानमयस्य स्वभावतो विशुद्धिः असंसारि-

In plain words

The answer to 'Who was this, then, in deep sleep?' has already been given. And this settling of the question reveals something more: the awareness-self is, by its very nature, pure — untouched by the wheel of birth and death—

Close to the Sanskrit

The reply to the question 'Who was this, then?' has been given; and by this determination of the question, [it is shown that] the vijñānamaya self is, by its own nature, pure — free from transmigra—

Bṛhadāraṇyakopaniṣadbhāṣyam· Leaf 8.265

त्वं च उक्तम्; कुत एतदागादित्यस्य प्रश्नस्यापाकरणार्थः आरम्भः । ननु यस्मिन्ग्रामे नगरे वा यो भवति, सोऽन्यत्र गच्छन् तत एव ग्रामान्नगराद्वा गच्छति, नान्यतः ; तथा सति कैष तदाभूदित्येतावानेवास्तु प्रश्नः ; यत्राभूत् तत एव आगमनं प्रसिद्धं स्यात् नान्यत इति कुत एतदागादिति प्रश्नो निरर्थक एव- किं श्रुतिरुपालभ्यते भवता ? न ; किं तर्हि द्वितीयस्य प्रश्नस्य अर्थान्तरं श्रोतुमिच्छामि, अत आनर्थक्यं चोदयामि । एवं तर्हि कुत इत्यपादानार्थता न गृह्यते; अपादानार्थत्वे हि पुनरुक्तता, नान्यार्थत्वे; अस्तु तर्हि निमित्तार्थः प्रश्नः- कुत एतदागात्- किंनिमित्तमिहा- गमनमिति । न निमित्तार्थतापि, प्रतिवचनवैरूप्यात्; आ- त्मनश्च सर्वस्य जगतः अग्निविस्फुलिङ्गादिवदुत्पत्तिः प्रतिव- चने श्रूयते; न हि विस्फुलिङ्गानां विद्रवणे अग्निर्निमित्तम्, अपादानमेव तु सः ; तथा परमात्मा विज्ञानमयस्य आत्म- नोऽपादानत्वेन श्रूयते- 'अस्मादात्मनः' इत्येतस्मिन्वाक्ये; तस्मात् प्रतिवचनवैलौम्यात् कुत इति प्रश्नस्य निमित्तार्थता न शक्यते वर्णयितुम् । नन्वपादानप्रश्नेऽपि पुनरुक्ततादोषः स्थित एव ॥

नैष दोषः, प्रश्नाभ्यामात्मनि क्रियाकारकफलात्मतापो- तर्हि स्वात्मन्येवाभूत्— 'स्वमात्मानमपीतो भवति' 'सता सोम्य तदा संपन्नो भवति' 'प्राज्ञेनात्मना संपरिष्वक्तः' 'पर आत्मनि संप्रतिष्ठते' इत्यादिश्रुतिभ्यः ; अत एव नान्यः अन्यस्मादागच्छति ; तत् श्रुत्यैव प्रदर्श्यते 'अस्मादात्मनः' इति, आत्मव्यतिरेकेण वस्त्वन्तराभावात् । नन्वस्ति प्राणाद्यात्मव्यतिरिक्तं वस्त्वन्तरम्—न, प्राणादेस्तत एव निष्पत्तेः ॥

In plain words

And this too has been said [that the awareness-self is, by nature, both pure and beyond transmigration]. What follows now is meant to answer a lingering question: 'Where did this come from?' Someone might object: think of a person living in some village or town. When he sets out for somewhere else, he leaves from that very village or town — from nowhere else. So, by that logic, the only real question should have been 'Who was this, then?' Wherever he was, that is obviously where he came from — so asking 'where did this come from?' on top of that is just pointless. Are you accusing scripture of padding its own words? No — I want a different meaning drawn out of that second question, and that's exactly why I'm pushing on it. Fine — then maybe 'where' here doesn't mean 'source' at all? Because if it does, we're back to repeating ourselves; if it means something else, we need to say what. Suppose, then, it's asking about a reason: 'why did this come to be here?' But that doesn't work either — the answer that follows doesn't fit a question about reasons. What we're told is that the self, and the whole world with it, arises the way sparks fly from a fire. And a fire isn't the reason sparks fly off — it's simply where they come from. In exactly the same way, the Supreme Self is named as the source the awareness-self comes from — that's what the phrase 'from this self' means. So the mismatch with the answer rules out reading 'where' as asking for a reason. One objection remains, though: even reading it as asking for a source, aren't we still just repeating the first question?

There is no problem here. Answering those two questions already dissolves the idea that you are your actions, your role as the one who acts, or the fruit you reap … — then, it happened only within your own self. That is exactly what the scriptures say: 'he becomes merged into his own self,' 'then, dear one, he becomes one with Being itself,' 'the wise self holds him in a close embrace,' 'he comes to rest, firmly, in the Supreme Self.' And that is exactly why nothing here comes from somewhere else — scripture says so plainly: everything arises 'from this self,' because apart from the self, nothing else exists. But you might object: isn't there something else, some separate substance — the vital breath and its kind — apart from the self? No. Because even the breath itself arises from nothing but that very self.

Close to the Sanskrit

And it has been stated [that vijñānamaya is by nature both pure and free from transmigration]; the undertaking [that follows] is for the sake of resolving the question 'from where did this come?' Objection: in whatever village or town a person may be, when going elsewhere he goes from that very village or town, not from any other; that being so, let the question be simply this much: 'who was this, then?' — for wherever he was, the coming would be well known to be from that very place, not from elsewhere; so the question 'from where did this come?' is indeed meaningless. Is it scripture you are faulting? No; then what? I wish to hear some other meaning for the second question — that is why I press the charge of meaninglessness. Well then, is the sense of 'from where' as the ablative source not accepted here? For if taken in the ablative sense, there is redundancy; if not taken in that sense, let it then be a question about cause: 'from where did this come' meaning 'for what reason did this coming happen here?' That too cannot be the sense of cause, because the answer given does not match it: for in the answer, the origination of the self and of the whole world is described as being like sparks from a fire; and indeed, in the scattering of sparks, fire is not their cause in that sense — it is only their point of departure. Likewise the Supreme Self is described, with respect to the self called vijñānamaya, as its point of departure — in the sentence 'from this self.' Therefore, because of this mismatch with the answer, the sense of 'cause' cannot be maintained for the question 'from where.' Objection: but even on the ablative reading of the question, the fault of redundancy still stands.

This is not a fault: regarding the self, by [answering] these two questions, the identification [of the self] with action, agent, and result … — then it occurred within one's own self alone — [as scripture says:] 'he becomes merged into his own self,' 'then, O gentle one, he becomes united with Being,' 'he is closely embraced by the wise self,' 'he becomes firmly established in the Supreme Self' — from such scriptural statements. For this very reason, nothing comes from anything else; that very point is shown by scripture itself as 'from this self,' because apart from the self there is no other entity. Objection: is there not another substance, distinct from the self, beginning with the vital breath (prāṇa)? No — because even prāṇa and the rest arise from that very self.