Then Muvva Gopāla, smiling softly and glad that the moment He had waited for had come near, said: “Brother-in-law! Listen. When people speak of sunrise and sunset, what does it mean? It is only so in people's sight, not in the sight of the Sun. The Sun neither rises nor sets. Is that so or not? I am just the same. For Me there is no birth at all. To the sight of ordinary men it seems that I have taken on many bodies and taken many births. Whenever the uplifting of the world requires it, I take on a body and appear to the world with form and name; yet however many births there may be, I remember them all. I am all-knowing and all-powerful. And not only I: you too know everything. But because your power of Jñāna is covered by Ajñāna, you cannot know it. Because I am full of Jñāna, everything is clear to Me at all times. Brother-in-law! Merely because the Sun appears in a mirror, does he lose his place or his authority? He stays just as he is, and is reflected in the mirror. In the same way, merely because I too am reflected in the mirror called Prakṛti, no breach comes to My omniscience and omnipotence; none at all. I am without birth. For a human birth, the meritorious and sinful karmas done before are the causes. Do you think, perhaps, that the same things cause the births of an Avatāra too? No, no. A human birth is a ‘karma birth’; My birth is a ‘līlā birth’. Prayers and good deeds are the cause of My birth; the evil deeds of the wicked and the good deeds of the virtuous are the cause of My birth.”