How can Mokṣa come to such pampered ones, to those greedy for sense objects? And if there are no such good-for-nothing disciples, what do the gurus lose? Yet there are gurus, too, who lose out when such disciples are missing: opium gurus and ganja gurus. Chī! Such gurus are not gurus, and such disciples are not disciples either. They are deceivers of the world. Gurus who toil for their bellies, how can they be gurus? Disciples who hanker after luxuries, how can they be disciples? Those are gurus of money; these are disciples of pride. Even to think of such people as guru and disciple — they would be the ones who have brought disrepute on the most holy word "guru". Those who give teachings that destroy moha are true gurus. He who strives to check the vāsanās of sense objects is a disciple. Today's gurus read all night, and by day they climb onto "platforms" and — abbā! — reel off the tattva of Vedānta like parrots, the way one throws up food one has eaten. They thump the tables and declare that the six enemies, kāma, krodha and the rest, must be trampled down. But in themselves they keep showing that same kāma and krodha, envy and hatred, and the demons of greed, minute by minute, in every word and every small deed. If they themselves, the ones called gurus, cannot check these qualities, how then can disciples grow? Well then, suppose gurus are found who have complete renunciation in all matters, who let neither attachment nor aversion come near, who hold all people alike dear, who uphold truthful speech, who always wish the welfare of all with good thoughts, and who in a simple spirit teach the good path and good qualities: disciples gather round such gurus in small numbers! And besides that, they form perverse notions about such holy gurus and doubt them. This is nothing other than the disciples' own karma. The gurus lose nothing at all. It is the disciples who do not take refuge in such gurus who lose a great deal. Disciples who do not give up the delusion that they are the body may wander through any number of countries and take refuge in any number of gurus: they cannot see God. They cannot let go of delusion. However many dhyānas and japas they do, however many pilgrimages they go on, they cannot obtain the fruit. All their sādhanas are like water poured into a pot with a hole in it.