Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi · Volume II

Talk 274

27th October, 1936

The Muslim Professor asked how Vaishnavism can be reconciled to Advaitism.

M.: The Vaishnavites call themselves Visishtadvaitins. This is also Advaita. Just as the individual body comprises the soul, the ego and the gross body, so also God comprises Paramatma, the world and the individuals.

D.: Does not imply duality?

M.: “swa swarupānusandhānam bhaktirityabhidheeate” (Reflection on one’s own Self is called .) Bhakti and Self-Enquiry are the same. The Self of the advaitins is the God of the bhaktas.

D.: Is there a spiritual hierarchy of all the original propounders of religions watching the spiritual welfare of the humans?

M.: Let them be or let them not be. It is only a surmise at the best. Atma is (self-evident). Know it and be done with speculation. One may admit such a hierarchy; another may not. But no one can gainsay the Atma.

D.: What does Sri Bhagavan think of Pravritti and Nivritti margas?

M.: Yes. Both are mentioned. What of that?

D.: Which is the better of the two?

M.: If you see the Self—pure and simple—it is nivritti; if you see the Self with the world, it is pravritti. In other words, inward-turned mind (antarmukhi manas) is nivritti; outward-going mind (bahirmukhi manas) is pravritti. Anyway, there is nothing apart from the Self. Both are the same.

Similarly also, with the spiritual hierarchy; they cannot exist apart from the Self. They are only in the Self and remain as the Self. Realisation of the Self is the one Goal of all.

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